Hey folks,

As I am preparing for tomorrow's presentation, I am interested to know what you would like to get out of it. Have any of you tried the ColdFusion 9 ORM? Are you already an advanced ORM user? Are you unfamiliar with it?

Any comments will help me to know what to focus on, and to "know my audience".

Thanks,

-Neil

Dont know anything about it. Now you can appeal to the noob crowd (^_^).

If a person wasn't familiar with SQL statements beyond basic CRUD operations, or if they were building software that might go into production on a variety of databases I could see how ORM could be very powerful.

However, if the db is known and knowledge of how to get the most out of the db is known, what advantages are there to ORM? Does it really save that much time in generating the getters/setters for objects? How well does it handle updates to objects that are split across two tables?

Matthew Reinbold
Creative Principal, Vox Pop Design, http://voxpopdesign.c...

I've played with the Transfer ORM, but still pretty new to it.

I'd like to know if ORM object can map to only a partial list of columns on a table or does it have to provide crud functions for the entire table. We've got several tables in our database that have 200+ columns. Yuk I know, we'd all like to refactor them for normalization.

Can ORM be integrated into existing CFCs?

If their is some kind of Value Object coding embedded in the ORM, I would like to see that.

Hey, everyone, thanks for the responses. They were helpful as I was figuring out what I wanted to say about this topic. I think that many of your questions will either be answered, or at least you will have a better idea of where to look I hope that you will find the presentation informative.

Best,

-Neil

Neil,

Hopefully, you don't see this comment until after you've caught up on your sleep, because you certainly deserve it! Great presentation tonight. I have a play project where I kick around various projects. To this point I had settled on a Mach-II (MVC), AOP, and Transfer (ORM) setup (first time after a server restart the app takes like 5 minutes to load while the binaries are created). With CF9 you've convinced me that its probably time to tear out the Transfer part and use the built in framework exclusively.

Thanks again for a great preso!

Matthew Reinbold
Creative Principal, Vox Pop Design, http://voxpopdesign.c...

Hi Matthew,

Thanks for the kind words. I basically went home and instantly went to sleep.

Glad to hear that you enjoyed the presentation. My only goal was to keep from putting everyone to sleep. It seems like people were interested in the topic, so I think I did OK.

Good luck with the CF9 ORM. I'm interested to hear how it turns out.

If anyone is interested, I am happy to post my notes and example apps somewhere, or email them as desired. Hopefully that will help give you a head start.

Best regards,

-Neil